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DSMotorsport
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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December 09, 2005, 10:34:45 AM »
I have a few questions about the software that controls the EMS serial gauge.
#1: How do I set the gauge to view parameters that are not on the "available" and "in use" box? I would like to watch O2 Feedback %.
#2 What does the "flash gauge" selection do in the first pulldown menu?
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DSMotorsport
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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December 09, 2005, 06:53:42 PM »
I have the gauge installed and working in my evo8. Awesome item, it's exactly what I was looking for. Now I just need to get it to display the parameters that I want to see that are not listed in any of the base calibrations that came on the CD.
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JN
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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December 13, 2005, 08:30:12 AM »
DS,
Glad to hear the gauge is working good for you. As of right now, only the parameters in the available and in use box can be viewed. The flash gauge is used to update/upgrade the code in the gauge.
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DSMotorsport
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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December 13, 2005, 02:40:52 PM »
Quote from: JN
DS,
Glad to hear the gauge is working good for you. As of right now, only the parameters in the available and in use box can be viewed. The flash gauge is used to update/upgrade the code in the gauge.
When/If will more parameters be made available?
I was really hoping to be able to view:
O2 Feedback #
Nitrous on/off switch
Knock #1 or timing retard
Injector Duty Cycle
What are the ADCR channels?
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MP
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro
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December 13, 2005, 05:07:10 PM »
(As of right now, none of this is automatic in the software and we know that, so please keep the gripes to a minimum, Thanks -MP)
In AEMPro, Go to View -> Telemetry Setup. Select a parameter you are not using, say ADCR 11 for this example, and select, say, O2 #1 FB Value instead. This will set O2 #1 FB to be sent over the datastream. You can send over the datastream any parameter you want.
Note that digital parameters (such as Stat Sync'd, Error MAP, etc..) are multiplexed into one value that is sent across the datastream. (Stat Sync'd is a bit in Status #1, Error MAP is a bit in Error #1, etc...)
If you then hit "Show Info", it will show you how the value is converted from a 0-255 value on the datastream to engineering units. Note that O2 #1 FB is signed as that will be important later when you setup the gauge to display O2 #1 FB.
This is all you should have to do on the AEMPro/EMS side of things to get that parameter on the datastream.
Remember to save your calibration with a new file name.
In AEM ProGauge, Open the Base Cal.mdb file. In the Single Gauge Data window, double click "6: ADCR 11 Volts" under the Gauge column. This will bring up the Look-up Table for that channel.
You can now change the name and the units to whatever channel you are using.
You can then input the engineering units based on the scale and offset from the telemetry info window in AEMPro.
For non-signed values this is pretty straight forward. For example, for O2 #1 in AFR with a Scalar of 0.057188 and an offset of 7.32, 0 will be 0 * 0.057188 + 7.32 = 7.32 and 255 will be 255 * 0.057188 + 7.32 = 21.9. (Rounding to three digits of course)
For signed values, it's a bit tricker because 0-127 are positive and 128-255 are negative.
For 0-127 you will use the scale and offset as you would for a non-signed value. For example, for O2 #1 FB, 0 would be 0 * 0.390625 +0 = 0.39 and 127 would be 127 * 0.390625 + 0 = 49.6
For 128-255, you need to take into account that these values are negative and have to take an extra step. You have to subtract 256 from the value BEFORE you apply the scale and offset. So, for O2 #1 FB, 128 would be (128-256) * 0.390625 + 0 = -50 and 255 would be (255-256) * 0.390625 +0 = -0.39.
For the signed values, look at the settings for Air Temp and Water Temp as a reference.
You can speed things up by using the Auto Fill Feature.
You can then setup the LED number & LED color for each of your new values and the Gauge Display Name.
Make sure you save the file setting to a file before you send it to the Serial Gauge.
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ultimate4g63
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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January 28, 2006, 05:11:43 AM »
I just got my gauge working last night
It's very simple. The Serial Gauge has 19 channels it can actually accept and display. The EMS Telemetry Setup outputs 19 channels. Each channel represents a parameter that is sent to the gauge. You can change each channel to any of the AEM parameters. For me, one of the changes I made was changing channel 19 (default was Error#2) to Ign Timing. Click on the "Show Info" button. It will give you the offset, scalar, min, max, etc for each of the selected parameters that are specific to your calibration file. So in my case, my Engine Load was already set with -13.0 min and 29.4 max. Ign Timing showed -17 min and 72.6 max (degrees adv). For normal parameters like this (not signed) all you care about is the min and max values as that is exactly what you will input into the ProGauge software for that particular channel. What you do now in the ProGauge software, is:
1) go into the Lookup Table for that particular channel (19)
2) change the gauge name to whatever you want, and set the units to whatever you want (it's all just for reference and doesn't mean a thing), and change the LED to display whatever you want.
3) click on the Auto Fill button. under "Digit fill values" set 0 and 255 to your min and max. So for my Ign Timing i set:
Start Cell 0 = -17
End Cell 255 = 72.6
then push the Fill Table button. that will interpolate the rest of the values in between.
What I found is that you cannot fine tune your resolution. Most of us will never see 72.4 degrees advance. I wanted to change 255 to 50 deg so that I could get better resolution but it can't work that way.
Signed values are a bit more complicated and I don't really understand them well enough to educate anyone. Only signed values that I cared to display were coolant temp and intake air temp. Both were preset with the base cal so I didn't touch them (except for the LED colors).
Right now I have the following working on my gauge:
- Engine Load (PSI - default is setup in percent!
)
- O2#1
- TPS
- Coolant Temp
- Ign Timing
- Intake Air Temp
- Knock #1 Volts
- VSS
The software is a bit buggy. This was my only real problem. Also, the amount of time I spent setting up the colored LED's was a bit disappointing as they are not that bright AT ALL!
Special thanks to JN @ AEM for help with this. Great support, he actually called me several times to help me through the software woes.
Here's my current gauge setup file if anyone cares to see what I've done.
http://www.ultimate-racing.com/darryl2.mdb
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Justin311
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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January 28, 2006, 11:04:17 AM »
Thanks for uploading that, it will help a ton to get going with that rather than strat from scratch!!!
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ultimate4g63
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Reply #7 on:
January 28, 2006, 05:01:56 PM »
Well I really can't take all the credit for it. Some of the stuff was there from the default cal (coolant temp, intake air temp, VSS). Stuff like Engine Load will also be different depending on which MAP sensor you're using. What it really comes down to is what you have setup under Telemetry Setup. Then you will need to make everything match on the Serial Gauge side of things.
Good luck!
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2G DSM
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January 31, 2006, 03:03:21 PM »
So you can get the gauge to show boost in PSI with no problem? That was my main concern with the gauge.
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JN
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How to select additional parameters in GaugePro?
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January 31, 2006, 03:55:43 PM »
Quote from: DSM Turbos
So you can get the gauge to show boost in PSI with no problem? That was my main concern with the gauge.
Yes, it's pretty easy. Go to view telemetry setup. Click on the show info button. Find the min and max values for engine load. In Pro Gauge, open the lookup table for engine load (gauge 2). Click on the auto fill button.
The start cell should be 0 = "min" value
The end cell should be 255 = "max" value
Then click fill table.
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Justin311
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Reply #10 on:
February 02, 2006, 08:27:25 AM »
Quote from: ultimate4g63
Stuff like Engine Load will also be different depending on which MAP sensor you're using.
Suprisingly most of the parameters you set up worked great for my setup too
(Probalby because I have a 2.0L Turbo like you, its just the toyota variant 3SGTE :p)
I'm wondering what MAP sensor you're using; is it the GM 3.5 bar? I have 2 other boost gauges in the car (don't ask LOL) and it all seemed pretty consistent.
The IGN parameter with your mdb is showing me 27.3* at all times...is yorus working?
Thansk again for uploading that!
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ultimate4g63
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Reply #11 on:
February 02, 2006, 08:39:49 AM »
You really shouldn't be using my mdb for your gauge. You need to set up the 0 and 255 values on your gauge to match the min and max values of YOUR EMS calibration. Follow my directions above and you should get it all working.
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Justin311
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Reply #12 on:
February 04, 2006, 11:26:44 AM »
Nevermind, I figurd it out
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Mr. Thorsen
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February 21, 2006, 07:18:59 AM »
Quote from: ultimate4g63
Also, the amount of time I spent setting up the colored LED's was a bit disappointing as they are not that bright AT ALL!
Has anyone else had this issue? The overall brightness of my gauge is quite dim, especially compared to my FJO gauge-type display. I took some pictures and video this morning that I will try to post up for comparison. All connections are good and I tried a few different grounding locations with no change.
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ultimate4g63
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February 21, 2006, 07:32:24 AM »
my gauge goes from dim to bright on it's own. it does not seem to be a power/ground related issue. Just the gauge itself.
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