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98mkiv
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upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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May 03, 2007, 08:53:29 PM »
I had my car tuned running 1.11 and it's rock solid. I now own a 19-1 serial datastream gauge and in order to run it I need to update to 1.19 firmware. I have done it twice now, only to have to downgrade to 1.11 again. When I go to 1.19 the car runs pig rich and will barely stay running. I don't want to have to retune because of a firmware flash. Can someone tell me what i am doing wrong. This is a MAP based (aem 5 bar) supra JZ.
?OR? is there a way to run the serial gauge with 1.11?
Thanks,
Mark
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Mello
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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Reply #1 on:
May 04, 2007, 03:41:03 PM »
V1.19 upgrades resets the default for your AFR units to Alcohol. Double check this in "configure/units". If it is showing gasoline re-select it because some have noticed it beginning set but still actually wrong.
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98mkiv
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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May 04, 2007, 05:05:40 PM »
already did that, with all the units, not just afr.
Did not make a difference.
Any other ideas?
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moparacker
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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May 08, 2007, 07:12:54 PM »
I'm also having the same problem. AFR setting is correctly set.
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'00 Turbo S2000
Inline Pro kit w/GT35R, EMS 30-1052, 3.5 bar MAP
mx5
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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May 08, 2007, 11:20:27 PM »
It's stuck there. First set it to something else and then return it back to gasoline
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'94 Mazda Miata, engine control setup: AEM EMS 1710, AEM TwinFire with COP in direct fire config, AEM 2bar MAP sensor, Tech Edge WBO2A
moparacker
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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May 13, 2007, 01:24:36 PM »
I tried resetting the AFR setting, still didn't work. I even converted my 1.11 map to 1.19 again after changing that setting and it still runs rich.
Anything else I can check?
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'00 Turbo S2000
Inline Pro kit w/GT35R, EMS 30-1052, 3.5 bar MAP
Thiefcode
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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June 04, 2009, 05:13:44 PM »
Gotta resurrect this thread instead of starting a new one:
I seem to be having precisely the same problem now as the OP with my RX-7.... The translation of cal files, v1.11-v1.21, is accurate, but it feels really rich.
98mkiv: Did you ever solve this problem or did you downgrade back to v1.11?
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chevyeater
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 08, 2009, 07:36:55 PM »
MAP analog input? There are conversion notes...
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trbo2dr
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 10, 2009, 11:08:12 AM »
Quote from: Thiefcode on June 04, 2009, 05:13:44 PM
Gotta resurrect this thread instead of starting a new one:
I seem to be having precisely the same problem now as the OP with my RX-7.... The translation of cal files, v1.11-v1.21, is accurate, but it feels really rich.
98mkiv: Did you ever solve this problem or did you downgrade back to v1.11?
Isn't v1.21 GM specific or something along those lines? Something about interfacing with the factory gauge cluster?
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I use the Paris Hilton tuning method: rich and retarded.
Thiefcode
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 16, 2009, 08:23:41 AM »
Quote from: trbo2dr on July 10, 2009, 11:08:12 AM
Isn't v1.21 GM specific or something along those lines? Something about interfacing with the factory gauge cluster?
Yes, you are correct. I meant to say I am upgrading from v1.11 to v1.19... I've scrutinized the two files four times now, and I am convinced they are absolutely identical. However, the car bogs heavily during gear shifts and backfires/pops like crazy on the v1.19 cal file. Any other thoughts?
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SB
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 16, 2009, 08:52:05 AM »
Try using the Compare Calibrations feature to look for differences, or post both the new and old calibrations here.
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specialed
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 16, 2009, 10:18:22 AM »
In addition to SB's post, you also want to take a look at the previous 1.11 Battery Offset tables compared with the 1.19 Battery Offset tables.
Some might have changed with the updated wizard files, so if the vehicle was running better with the previous BO, then copy that over to the 1.19 calibration.
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Thiefcode
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 16, 2009, 02:19:56 PM »
Quote from: SB on July 16, 2009, 08:52:05 AM
Try using the Compare Calibrations feature to look for differences, or post both the new and old calibrations here.
SB,
Attached here, thanks.
TPE tune with active WI output 042409.V1.11.cal
(19.96 KB - downloaded 69 times.)
TPE tune with active WI output 071009.V1.19.cal
(19.97 KB - downloaded 68 times.)
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Thiefcode
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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July 16, 2009, 02:23:36 PM »
Quote from: specialed on July 16, 2009, 10:18:22 AM
In addition to SB's post, you also want to take a look at the previous 1.11 Battery Offset tables compared with the 1.19 Battery Offset tables.
Some might have changed with the updated wizard files, so if the vehicle was running better with the previous BO, then copy that over to the 1.19 calibration.
Where do I access the "Battery Offset" tables? Thanks.
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specialed
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Re: upgraded from 1.11 to 1.19 and running rich now.
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August 05, 2009, 07:21:40 AM »
Battery Offset tables can be accessed through Setup -> Injectors -> Primary -> Battery Offset Primary Table.
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