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Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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shaundrake
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #15 on:
December 14, 2008, 06:52:14 PM »
I'd be more than happy to provide the info you want but I'm not sure exactly what that is. The problem is the same for everyone. You have your tuned map, then you change the load points and it rescales the Y axis for you, but your table stays the same. Now you can sort of try to calculate the new pulse widths by calculating how far between the two points you now are, but it turns out that it's easier and more accurate just to completely retune your map. That's where your program comes in.
All I can think of is to upload my calibration and then tell you that I want to get rid of the first and maybe the second load rows at the bottom. I never hit them except under deceleration even at 5000 ft, so I might as well try to get some more resolution. My idle needs more resolution (but I want to keep the map linear).
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Gordo
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #16 on:
January 03, 2009, 07:21:57 PM »
Why didn't you make the program more intuitive (GUI interface) where there'd be textboxes to paste values into.
Tell me you aren't just starting out in programing
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Gordo
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #17 on:
January 03, 2009, 07:24:25 PM »
BTW, What's wrong with just doign:
(Say for a map that's from 500rpm to 10500rpm - eg. the 1601 MAP Cal)
1) Selecting map from 500rpm to wherever 8000rpm is and copying (Ctrl+C)
2) Changing your breakpoints to 500->8000 and then calculating the breakpoints in between
3) Selecting entire map and pasting (Ctrl+V)
AEM will interpolate the values. It's not perfect but that's what tuning is supposed to be for
This is what I've always done
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TheBoz2
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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January 03, 2009, 11:29:33 PM »
Quote from: Gordo on January 03, 2009, 07:21:57 PM
Why didn't you make the program more intuitive (GUI interface) where there'd be textboxes to paste values into.
Tell me you aren't just starting out in programing
Just Reflector the C# code and Build one, since you are the leet haxor.
Quote from: Gordo on January 03, 2009, 07:24:25 PM
BTW, What's wrong with just doign:
(Say for a map that's from 500rpm to 10500rpm - eg. the 1601 MAP Cal)
1) Selecting map from 500rpm to wherever 8000rpm is and copying (Ctrl+C)
2) Changing your breakpoints to 500->8000 and then calculating the breakpoints in between
3) Selecting entire map and pasting (Ctrl+V)
AEM will interpolate the values. It's not perfect but that's what tuning is supposed to be for
This is what I've always done
Cool, for was I was looking for I wanted to reduce the amount or retuning. So with my method, I was able to just load the map and go. I had to make small changes to the map but other than that it was really good.
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tastyratz
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #19 on:
January 13, 2009, 03:35:33 AM »
Cool app
Nice to see other people doing similar things, I guess I am not the only one.
I created this and posted it awhile ago:
http://personal.tastyratz.com/articles/boostcompv1b.xls
Figured it would be a good place and time to re-link. It has calculations for the lazy and new tuner to build a boost comp/hybrid scratch basemap, adding ideal gas law temp correction to your tune, some guides, etc. A lot of the calculations can be manipulated to get where you want (I.E. build a map thats 12:1 across the board, tell it your automap log was 12:1 across the board, have it build a basemap with your theoretical fuel curves, etc)
Maybe some of this can help you with your app too.
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boostedB5Audi
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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December 23, 2009, 12:29:41 PM »
so how exactly do you use this app? I DL'd microsoft net 2.0 framework, then DL'd the zip file, but whenever I try to open anything I get a "cant open..." message. I could select a program to open it with, however I am not sure exactly what to use nor HOW it works with AEMPro?
If anyone would help me out with this, I'd surely appreciate it! I am hoping to use this to help in changing my breakpoints today without having to manually calculate every single entry! This seems like it would be a really great app to have and use, if only I could get it to open up and work for me. Please pardon my illiteracy
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TheBoz2
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #21 on:
December 23, 2009, 01:23:17 PM »
So once you download the zip file, there are 3 files in the zip.
1.ChangeFuelMapBreakPoints.exe
2.ChangeFuelMapBreakPoints.exe.config
3.Readme.txt
*** SAVE A COPY OF YOUR MAP SOMEWHERE ELSE BEFORE DOING ANYTHING ***
1. Open up your map using AEMPro.
2. Open 'ChangeFuelMapBreakPoints.exe.config'
a. From AEMPro view your breakpoints(Setup->Breakpoints->Breakpoints)
b. Highlight all the points on your 'Load Breakpoints table', and press 'Ctrl+C' to copy them
c. In the config file where it says '<add key="ExistingLoadBreakpoints" value="" />', replace the data in the 'value' section with your breakpoints, by pressing 'Ctrl+V'. If there are existing breakpoints in there delete them.
d. Repeat the same steps for 'ExistingRPMBreakpoints', which is 'RPM Breakpoints table'
e. Adjust your Load, and RPM breakpoints to what ever values you would like them to be
f. Repeat the same steps for 'NewLoadBreakpoints', which is 'Load Breakpoints table' with your new Load Breakpoints
g. Repeat the same steps for 'NewRPMBreakpoints', which is 'RPM Breakpoints table' with your new RPM Breakpoints
h. Copy and Paste your ENTIRE Fuel map into the value section of this tag ''<add key="FuelMap" value="" />''
i. Copy and Paste your ENTIRE Ignition map into the value section of this tag ''<add key="IgnitionMap" value="" />''
3. Save the 'ChangeFuelMapBreakPoints.exe.config'
4. Double click 'ChangeFuelMapBreakPoints.exe'
a. Read the screen.
b. Press the Enter Key
c. Read the screen, it will tell you where your new Fuel and Timing data is saved.
d. Press the Enter Key to close the application.
5. Navigate to 'c:\maps\'
6. Open the txt file
7. Copy the Entire Fuel Map from the text file, but just the numbers
a. Return to AEMPro, and highlight your entire fuel map, and hit 'Ctrl+V' this will paste in the values from the text file into your cal.
8. Copy the Entire Ignition Map from the text file, but just the number
a. Return to AEMPro, and highlight your entire ignition map, , and hit 'Ctrl+V' this will paste in the values from the text file into your cal.
9. Visually spot check the the map to make sure that it is looking the way it should be looking.
10. Load the map onto your car and test.
If you have any other questions shoot me an email.
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Gordo
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Re: Changing Breakpoints without having to retune - App Inside
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Reply #22 on:
December 23, 2009, 03:36:38 PM »
TheBoz2:
Hook me up with the source and Ill release it with a full GUI
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