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Author Topic: Main Rev Limiter, 2step, and NLTS all from the EMS  (Read 798 times)
TheBoz2
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« on: December 04, 2009, 09:41:08 PM »

So I have been working a lot with the EMS over the past few weeks.  I have been playing with damn near everything.

So here is the Idea.

Main Rev Limiter
Fuel Cut - 8500
Ignition Cut - 8500
Fuel Cut Load - 35psi
Retard Limit Rev - 12000

2step
2step input - Switch is always on(**** Pic is worng for this, it must be ON for 2 step to work ****)
2step Fuel Cut - 6000
2step Ignition Cut - 12000
2step ok below VSS - 10mph
2step Retard Rev - 6000

NLTS - using Rally Style Anti-Lag
Ign Rev Limit Table - 6800 for all TPS%
Fuel Rev Limit Table - 6800 for all TPS%
Retard Rev Limit Table - 12000 for all TPS%
Anti-Lag Control - Checked
Anti-Lag Input - Switch #5 Gnd=On (What ever available switched input you have available)

And there you have it, Rev Limit, 2Step, and NLTS.

I based most of this off of this thread
http://forums.evolutionm.net/aem-ems/405978-how-setup-nls.html


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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 10:40:23 PM »

Have had my buddies fiero setup with this for a couple months now, same way except we run 2 switches 1 for nlts and 1 for 2step cause the vss res isn't there... been working flawless

NLTS has really helped out, boost drops are minimal between shifts now.

good to see someone else using the software to the potential too!!! afro
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« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2009, 11:42:32 AM »

2step input would have to be set to switch is always on to be activated under 10mph vss...

also for people who didn't follow the other thread, for the anti-lag sw in #5, that would need to be wired to a clutch switch to operate. This basic setup has also been working on the cars I've been tuning very successfully.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 08:54:16 PM »

Great,  yet ANOTHER thing I can't use until I solve my VSS conundrum.

Nice How-to,  I am all set and open for business just as soon as I have a calibrated and functional VSS signal to the EMS.
thanks for taking the time to write and post this grin
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 01:29:48 PM »

I'm going to go out and set the VSS switch to "VR"  as this is the only thing I haven't tried.  If that fails, I am ordering a hall sensor tomorrow morning.

I wired the clutch switch last night.  set to switch #1, pin 17 on the 30-1900u.

You said   ***pic is wrong, must be ON for 2-step to work***

I'm a bit confused over how to set this up.
My switch has 2 wires.  one goes to ground,  the other goes to AEM switch #1.
as the clutch sits, the clutch switch is pressed in making a ground.
when the clutch is depressed, the clutch switch is released causing the ground to be lost.

so am I going to be SWITCH OFF for 2-step and NLTS?
or do I need to be SWITCH ON?


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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2010, 11:42:17 AM »

I'm going to go out and set the VSS switch to "VR"  as this is the only thing I haven't tried.  If that fails, I am ordering a hall sensor tomorrow morning.

I wired the clutch switch last night.  set to switch #1, pin 17 on the 30-1900u.

You said   ***pic is wrong, must be ON for 2-step to work***

I'm a bit confused over how to set this up.
My switch has 2 wires.  one goes to ground,  the other goes to AEM switch #1.
as the clutch sits, the clutch switch is pressed in making a ground.
when the clutch is depressed, the clutch switch is released causing the ground to be lost.

so am I going to be SWITCH OFF for 2-step and NLTS?
or do I need to be SWITCH ON?


thanks

It depends when you loose ground.  gnd = off or on. However mine still doesn't work. Let me know how it goes for you. Everytime I try, I hit my seconday rev limiter (2-step) and can't rev past that.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2010, 02:28:26 PM »

Also I have my clutch switch for the starter disabled.  So I just reused the ground switch for the NLTS.  Once I get home I will go through my settings again and take a new screen shot.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 04:41:24 PM »

Also I have my clutch switch for the starter disabled.  So I just reused the ground switch for the NLTS.  Once I get home I will go through my settings again and take a new screen shot.

Some screen shots will help  smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2010, 09:16:36 PM »

My switch is a Hella unit which was originally used for starter disable and cruise control.  It has 2 wires, one connected to AEM Switch #1, the other connected to ground.  as it sits, with the clutch pedal not depressed (clutch engaged) the switch is "always on"

When I depress the clutch pedal (clutch disengaged) the parameter displayed for switch #1 immediately blinks to "off"



I have a 2 step rev limit set to 4500rpms for now just to play with this without revving the **** out of it,  and it works like it's supposed to.  I can hold the pedal to the floor and it holds at 4500 (ignition cut at 4500, fuel cut at 4700)  upon launch, my clutch slips something terrible,  but I can rev to the main rev limit, but once I push the clutch, the 4500 limit is back on for the shift, release the clutch and it winds back up to main rev limit. 

It's working very well,  and this is a really cool feature!

I can't wait until I get my new clutch/flywheel setup and new tires on this car.  There is virtually NO lag,  and while a GT3076R is relatively small as far as turbo sizing goes,  you have to realize this is a 1.8l motor that was BORED AND STROKED to get 2 liters (2008cc's)
Even so,  At this point it's feeling more like a supercharger than a turbo,  and once I work out the antilag settings, I got a feeling it's going to feel more like a Blown Big Block than a turbocharged 4-banger

 
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